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The band only spent a short time together, but was able to knock out two excellent records that I still play regularly. Recently, the team decided to reissue two remastered albums (the album of the same name and

) Download and distribute via CD. As part of the movement to release new music, they also recently updated the hit single "Our Love Is Crazy", and you will hear that there is more in the can. It is an absolute honour for me to talk to Desmond about everything about DC&R again. This is our chat room:

Desmond: Well, I'm very busy, very busy, very busy, because I just go to my studio from home, so I have been doing all kinds of things. In any case, I have always been a rat in the studio, so it has little effect on me. I mean, I do miss going to a nice restaurant and sitting on the tablecloth at the table (laughs). This is what I miss the most. Of course, I miss my friends. But we are using Zoom and Skype to make calls. Sometimes you will stay in touch with your friends than before because you realize that you need each other.

Desmond: Well, the nest is not empty anymore, because they went to college and took online classes in the dormitory like prisoners, where no one could come. They had to bring the tray to their room to eat, it was like going to Rikers. (Laughs) So they finally breathed a sigh of relief and went home for Thanksgiving. They have to stay until January so that I will not be happy. You know, I really don't have so many opportunities to miss them, because we set them up in late August, and then we knew they were back. Come back, like annoying (laugh).

Desmond: The first two records have been reproduced, so we are very happy to hear it for the first time without having to put down the needle, nor can we hear a bunch of scratches. It's really exciting to hear them hear the speeches of large speakers, to relive everything. Then, instead of mixing, we decided to remake the top 40 singles "Our love is crazy". Therefore, this is "Our love is crazy XX".

Desmond: Yes, we picked up the pace. Everyone’s singing is great, as usual, because Rouge’s voice is Maria Vidal, Diana Grasselli and Myriam Valle... The three of them are a perfect match. Because Diana is a color picture. Myriam is like a dramatic soprano, Maria is more like an alto. So these three sounds together are like wow. This is an orchestra.

Desmond: I know! (laugh)

Desmond: Well, it was love at first sight, soul mate, the moment she met, she was in the drama department. I was in the music department, but I always wanted to hang out with the drama kids. Therefore, I remember seeing her in several dramas, so I always sneak into the backstage to hang out. Her little dressing area is next to the door where I often go in and out. So I knocked it, and she opened it with pigtails, freckles painted on it, and she was playing this comedy as a little girl. She opened the door and said, "I'm sorry, you can't come in." I just looked at her, like, "Wow!" That was one of those things you just knew. I just came.

She said that a few days later, she saw me playing the grand piano on stage. Everyone is gone. There is only one light on the piano. So she walked into the auditorium quietly and heard me writing and singing. She said that was when I melted her heart.

It’s really unusual, because I wanted to be a rock star at the time, so I felt like David Bowie and Mick Jagger, the male lovers and things I’ve heard of ( Mick Jagger) is hermaphrodite. That's so exciting. I don’t agree with the idea of ​​being gay. I was attracted by Maria. But in the end we moved to New York together and lived in a small apartment. I realized that I grew up because we have been together for four years and I am actually more gay than bisexuals of the same age.

This is difficult because we are between the first and second album. So our second record,

, Everything about me came out. The first song is called "The Truth", this is Maria's song. If you look at the album cover, it will look very dark and gloomy. I am walking in one direction, and she is heading towards the light in the opposite direction. Therefore, this is very autobiographical. Everything had to remain the same afterwards, but it was difficult to continue to team up because of course she was injured. I try to be the perfect man. The perfect boyfriend. The perfect leader. Everything is perfect.

But this is a very dramatic period. Everything happened in the same year. Two albums came out. We made our debut on The Bottom Line. Lines around the block. We met John Belushi, and John Belushi introduced us to Gilda Radner, who is about to perform. Then Gilda asked Rouge to go to Broadway with her for a limited-edition performance called Gilda Live in New York. This is a documentary

. I'm finishing up my second album... These two albums were released only six months apart, because something happened in history.

We have experienced an important dance period. We have all these gay clubs, this is the voice of gay pride. The sound of KC and the Sunshine Band. Shake your booty. Love is unlimited. Evelyn Champagne King. Bee Gees, there is a DJ named Steve Dahl, and he decides he has enough discos. Therefore, he invited all these people in the heartland to appear in the stadium where the game was being played. They all rushed out of the stadium, threw all the disco records into a pile, and burned them down like Nazi Germany was burning books.

Remember the disco is dead? To be honest, this is a very racist and homophobic behavior. All these artists died immediately in their careers. They just went to the disco circuit. We don't want to fall into that wave, because our music has dance elements. In addition to beats, we are also experimenting with Latin percussion, horns, and guitar creation is these huge chords. This is the first time we have combined dance beats with rock music. Then our story is more like the story of singers and singers. They don't like sexual things very much. They are unique storytelling things.

So we also performed live performances, and we realized that the music we produced was more like blue-eyed souls and pop music. We are more suitable for this type. But we said that when the guitarist shows up and people respond, we love it. So we said, let's make a record. Let's change gears and become rock music.

We are also open for many punk bands including Patti Smith and CBGB and Dollar Dolls of the Ocean Club in Lower Manhattan. We are much more popular than them, but we listened and we started to incorporate punk elements (such as playing the guitar) into our music. This is what our great guitarist GE Smith heard, and then he married Gilda. Do you see the circle spinning?

But by the end of that year, this was too much for us. The last thing we have to do is, we will be live music guests on Saturday night. Everything is within a year. From nowhere to there. We have a song in the soundtrack of the movie "Warriors" called "The Last of Ancient Varieties".

Therefore, for us, especially in the relationship with me and Maria, it is difficult for us to deal with. The person I left her also dumped me. So I have nothing. I don't have my soul mate. I have no records. I don't have our manager anymore. We have no agents. I had nothing, and it took a long time to find myself afterwards. I just completely lost my confidence. Until 91

Finally express myself as an artist.

Desmond: Diana went to college in Miami with our drama department. So we are all best friends. Then I came to New York and spent my first year at New York University, followed by Maria. Then we looked up in the Rubin Room of the dining room, where Diana and her little suitcase were there. It's like "I am here". (laugh)

Myriam I met me two summers before leaving Miami Beach High School. At that time, I took off with my writing partner and we became Nightchild. Therefore, I must become Desmond Child, and she must become Virgil Night. So we went to Woodstock and met Myriam in a commune worshipped by a rock band, whose name was the physical spirit of Massachusetts. So we were there, she showed up, and that was your job in the field of rock bands. (Laughs) I mean, it's like... terrible. So we took off and she has been visiting us in Woodstock.

When I returned to Miami to finish high school and college, we kept in touch. So when I went to New York with Maria and Diana, Myriam was already there. She is a Puerto Rican from Brooklyn. That's why we started singing together. I first started singing and writing songs in a place called The Ball Room, and then they would dress up like prostitutes with a lot of makeup and corsets, and these things. They will make a loud noise in the bar and I will say, "Hey, what are you doing?" One of them will say, "You think you are great. We are better than you." Then I will say, "Oh, Really? Well, come here and show how great you are." So they would run in three-part harmony and sing around a microphone, and everyone went crazy. This is how we founded Desmond Child and Rouge.

Desmond: No. We have many other songs. . . I do not know. They are my first song. Therefore, when we started to have a clearer vision of ourselves, and once the record deal was concluded, I think I wrote the entire album immediately after that. Because at that time I realized that we need to improve to a higher level.

At that time, I met Paul Stanley of KISS. We performed at an underground club called Trax on 72nd Street. We became regulars there, we began to attract more and more people, and Paul Stanley began to show up. He always hangs out with us in the background. I think he thinks these girls are very sexy and sultry. We wrote in his autobiography.

One day, he rushed in and said, "George Harrison is here." Like what? We were all sitting on the edge of the stage, and he was sitting at the front table. He raised his head and gave us his pure white smile. We are all like, "Oh my God. One of the Beatles... here... see us singing!" It was an incredible experience, of course, during our playoff again, he soon Was attracted...you know, was driven away.

The night after the show, Paul said, "Why don't you write songs for my band with me?" I said,'Are you talking about kissing? (Isn't it?) (Laughs) I don't really understand the meaning of a band. "So I said, yes, but you have to write a song for our team."

Therefore, we wrote a song together called "The Fight" and co-wrote it with David Landau, the brother of one of our guitarists, Jon Landau. So he said, "Why don't you participate in our rehearsal?" So I went to SIR Studios, where there is the entire KISS setup. And Gene, as always rough and others, they all split. So only Paul and I sit on the piano. We started writing this song, "Born to Love You". So I think I do better than him in bargaining.

Desmond: I think I might have a little spark for David. Then I brought it to Paul and he helped. I want to fix the whole rock and roll business. The chorus of this song is "Left, right left", you will hear it later in Ricky Martin's song. "Let's go, beer, beer, beer."

Desmond: (laughs) So I have never done Desmond Childe and Rouge music. I just did it with different people, which is not well known to them. (laugh)

Desmond: I didn't think about anything. He is good, I just thought, "Let's see what happens." I really don't have any expectations because I just focus on making myself a rock star. But before I knew it, I heard "I was born to love you" on the radio. I mean, it's like after we wrote this song, they turned that thing around and released it so fast, incredible.

Paul will say today that this is their greatest international influence. He said it out loud. Remember that movie, "Why is it him?" That song is all over the movie, and KISS sings. As happy as genes. It's like... I guess the check is big. (laugh)

Desmond: I don't know anything about him except the one who hangs out with me, so he is always very soulful. Very thoughtful. Very clear and refined. Later, when I wrote to him in his apartment, I walked in and it was like, "Is this your mother's apartment?" He said, "No, this is mine."

Everything is beige, with a leopard print carpet, and a box with a Tiffany vase and lamp... The real vase is worth knowing. And you can eat on the floor. Everything is very clean. The guitars are on the wall. It's like a museum. Paul is like that. He is really a very experienced intellectual. He is very professional, he understands what they do and respects him. It was great, he and Gene were able to rub each other like stones in the river in the right way so that they could live together and develop this amazing business. They bring a lot of joy to people and will continue to do so.

Desmond: Yes, I think it's all part of the road. With the "Heat City", we have a large guitarist. Meet with Paul Stanley, yes. But it didn't stop there, because once we started to perform and saw the audience respond to the big rock sound, we started to turn the sound more towards rock. But we still want to keep that urbanization thing.

Also, please remember that it was when I bought my first drum machine. Their voices are harsh. It's almost like a metronome. But I started to compose songs. Then, when we entered the recording studio, especially the second album, we were measuring the bass drums to make them perfect in time. And we will move from 24 tracks to another solid, actually programming drums, but we don't even know.

Desmond: Well, we live in the east, but we like to go to Kurz in the west, where the Cuban/Chinese restaurants are located. Because Maria and I are both Cubans. Miriam is Puerto Rican. Diana is Italian, but she grew up in Kendall, Miami, surrounded by Miami Cubans. So she is almost like a Cuban.

We are Latinos, so the gangster image on the street and all this... I mean, I grew up in a project where you will go all the way to the back, and someone is always drumming something up. If you walk in the park on Sunday, you will have these percussionists. Therefore, we started to use this atmosphere and images in songs such as "Lively City" and "Western Prisoners of War".

Desmond: (Laughs) No, I think when I write a lot of lyrics, my main influence is Laura Niro and Jonny Mitchell. They will write these very complex, poetic words, which can only be found in poetry books or similar things. So I think they have a great influence on this. Of course, there are Elton John and so on.

But yes (laughs) I never really thought it was correct English. I wrote songs instinctively, but when Desmond Child & Rouge broke up, we took a different approach and I started working with Bob Crewe. BobCrewe moved back to New York after a long time. He has retired, but if you think about it, he is only 61 years old. I am 23 years old. He took me under his wings. Then we started to write the Brill Building style. We wrote together for nearly two years.

From Monday to Friday, we will meet in one place. Has always been Dutch. He participated in the program and many people took advantage of him. I went bankrupt, but I paid my shares. He has a special apartment and only writes songs. All he wrote was his black baby grand piano. All the music was written, but he himself did not play the piano. Therefore, there is a hard wooden stool and a very comfortable high stool with arms tied in leather, which is perfect for him to sit down. (Laughs) On one side, he has a small stack of yellow cushions, and he will start the whole meeting and turn to the electric piano sharpener.

Before we got the killer title, he wouldn't even let me put my hands on the piano so we could stay there all day. He would tell me something, and then I would say: "That sounds like a title." Then he would say: "No." I want to say, it sounds like the number one hit. He would say: "Okay, how many weeks?" (laughs) "How many weeks does it sound like the number one?" This is his standard. (laugh)

It may take two or three days to write a song. He is very careful about copying lyrics by hand. If he made a mistake, he would tear open the page and start over. This way he is like obsessive-compulsive disorder. By the way, another guy like Joan Jett. So precise. No graffiti. Everything in the most beautiful handwritten lyrics, if she makes a mistake, she will start from the beginning.

So Bob will label the cassette cuz because we will have a small cassette recorder, just like you can on a piano, it will record our conversation. He will always let me play the song from beginning to end on a separate tape. He is so professional.

I really grew up and didn't know my father until I was 18. So I really need a father and treat Bob as a parent. I listened to what he said. Except for one time he wanted me to sing the word lady in a song. Because his song "Ms. Marmalade" is very well received. Therefore, he wants to rhyme with ladies or babies. I said, I can't sing because I'm already out. I'm gay. I am not a singing lady. Even if it is a song, I will not be in the closet.

He was very frustrated with me. He said, "Okay! I wouldn't have been hit so hard without you." He was very arrogant and had a loud voice. I mean, he is a Viking with red hair and these freckles, very delicate. He is a model. His great bones are very good, his teeth are very beautiful, and his blue eyes. He may be very fierce. I remember sitting on that piano and galloping tears began to fall on the keys. He was like "Are you crying? My goodness! My goodness!" Then he walked over and put his arms around me. (Laughs) Just because I can't sing. Now I wish I had. It's stupid. (laugh)

This reminds me of when I went to the Four Seasons Hotel to write with Mick Jagger. For the first time, he was in the penthouse, he was on the phone, and I was waiting on the sofa. So he got off the phone and said, "Well, I already have this hook. It will (sing)'I'm going to buy me a gun and use it.'" It's like Columbine after two weeks. I was trying to be politically correct and said, "Well, this is not the message people want to hear in the United States."

He looked at me and I left before you knew it. It's gone on the street. Then I thought, "I should write that song!!!" (Laughs) I don't know if he ever used that hook with other people. But anyway, at those times I should go with the flow instead of standing on some stupid principles.

Desmond: (laughs)

Desmond: Yes. I was working in a sporting goods store. There was an Austrian owner named Otto with blue eyes. He was married to a Puerto Rican beauty. He was very beautiful, the kind of Natalie Wood (Natalie Wood). They have a beautiful son named Otti cuz, he is named after Otto, so little Otto is a skateboarding champion. My sister also works at the racing track. Therefore, she will keep calling us and tell them what horse will win. She is in the horse. She knows which horse is good...all this. Then we will rush to the Little Lotto and buy tickets. (laugh)

Otto was a ski champion. He is a very..... Arnold Schwarzenegger type, right? Otti is still an African boy with a mustache. I think I was a little obsessed with him, even though I was with Maria at the time. So I wrote the song "Otti" about him.

Desmond: Well, we live in this small apartment at 309 East 81st Street, No. 2 Front East. I brought this small Wurlitzer piano, which is sandwiched between the fireplace and the wall next to it. These walls have large open windows and a shaft where we can hear people screaming and fighting. This is a very western story. Then there is a small toilet and closet at the back. So this is this room.

I would sit at the piano with my back to them, Maria, then Miriam, then Diana, because that’s how they sang. Maria has been kicking my chair. But she is also my girlfriend, so do you know how many fights we have kicked that chair? (Laughter) So we have to develop harmony. Before we entered the studio, Wr had done everything. It's not about spending endless studio time or trimming parts or layering like today.

Desmond: Yes, we practiced over and over again. We will really work hard. Then we will hit the ceiling from above. (Laugh) From below (laugh), then from the side (laugh). Every way. Then the police would knock on the door and say, "He cut it." This is just one of them (laughs), but we don't care. We just continue to do this and make a sound.

We are just lucky, their sound can only be exciting with enough harmonic distortion, not annoying. Their voices are so different. When people sound the same, you will hear harmonic distortion, which becomes a (coo) sound when they sing), but we are lucky.

We had the idea of ​​being a street angel, and then we put on the cover and said: "The island is asleep. Our dream is emerging. When the young angel wakes up, it resurrects the silence of the night on 81st Street." So sometimes We will sing in the street because it is fun. But many times when we sing in the street, we all sing Laura Nyro

Labelle's album.

After so many years, in the early 90s, Laura Nyro came to this jazz club on Santa Monica Blvd and performed in Santa Monica. I have tried many times, but I haven't gotten anywhere. She is very reclusive. But I went and sent my business card back. When I got home, there was already a message on the answering machine. In this soft voice (whispering), "Hi, it's Laura." I have chicken skin on all parts of my body!! I called my husband Curtis and said, "Listen. It's Laura Niro." In fact, I started crying because she had spent 25 years following me.

So she came the next night. The girls happened to be in Los Angeles that night, so they came and we had a great dinner. Then we went to my music room and Laura sat on the piano and started singing. All Labelle parts. We started singing the album

. This is the ultimate dream of fans. Even our photographer, Ciro, is in the city, and he used the piano I recently posted on Instagram to take pictures of me and Laura-it was her birthday.

Then she invited me to dinner at her house. I rented a car while in New York and drove to Danbury, Connecticut. I don't know what it will be. I once fantasized about her in an amazing country house, where there was a huge grand piano. I thought why she wrote better than me when I used this small Wurlitzer Spinet to compose songs, because Mine is from a bar, so it still surrounds it. Black with red button, right? (laugh)

I said, "Oh, she must be this amazing Italian chef. This will be the most amazing meal." When I got there, she actually lived in such a prefab house...looks like a car The railroad car ran down from the pond she made. It has a picture window, I think there may be a few small windows to see behind. She has almost no furniture. She was sitting on a quilt on the floor in this small closet. And a small table. I used Lagu Spaghetti Sauce to get her out of the box. There are iceberg lettuce and French seasoning. I brought four different flavors of Hagen Daaz (Hagen Daaz).

We just started talking and she told me all the stories about her life and career. She played me a song she was working on. Her piano is a small Spinet, looking out from the small window of the pond... It's like the song I wrote all the first songs. I have imagined all these things. It does show you that it is not a piano to write songs.

So when she passed away, her partner Maria Desiderio invited us to perform at the Beacon Theatre in New York City on October 27, 1997. We were asked to make two songs, and then I came out to sing, singing "The Man Who Brought Me Home". Then the rouge came out and we did "Christmas in My Soul".

Desmond: Well, this is a great story. It has too many chords and I am a little nervous playing it. I have a small electric piano in the dressing room. The girls have gone downstairs to watch the performance from the side of the stage. A big thing happened because Maria called me before the show and said: "I heard Ricky Lee Jones decide that she wants to be "Christmas in my soul", will you give up?" I said, "No I didn’t give up.” She said, “But this is Rich Lee Jones.” I said, “Yes, but we are Desmond Child and Rouge, and we did not give up.” She even tried to see if she could be on stage with We sang together, but I refused. I am a child, I said: "This is our moment, we did not do this."

By the way, she ended up doing "The Man on the Train" and made the most exciting version of that song. Do you know the part where she went (singing)? Ricky called up Lara's voice, she just energized us.

So she went into the dressing room, where I practiced chords, "Christmas in my soul". Suddenly she appeared at the door, and she said: "I know you don't want me to sing this song. But can we do it alone with me now?" So she sat next to me and we sang this song, only she and I. just……. I was thinking to myself, "Where is the camera now? Why can't anyone pass by and take pictures? It's Rich Lee Jones". (Laughs) That's really touching. I mean, in the end, we both hugged tightly in tears.

How exciting is that, right? You must be a real Laura Nyro fan to understand what this means. Then, when Patti Labelle came out to sing "The Bells," you know the saying: "I can't hear the bell anymore?" The audience rushed to the stage. People are crying and screaming. It was like despair that we would never hear her voice again.

Desmond: Well, what happened during the time before the record was released, I met a guy, a very handsome boy, who lived across the street. I met him in a place, but didn't recognize him as a neighbor. Maria worked as a waiter in the old stove, and her waiter's name was Gina Vivet.

So he did me a favor. I immediately fell in love madly. From my core, I realized that I was more gay than bisexual. I can’t help but give me an excuse like David Bowie. I grew up. I am a man and I realize that I have to face myself. It was very difficult, especially for him across the street. It's really hard (sigh). Of course, this will not work because he is only 21 years old and I am only 23 or 24 years old. However, this has indeed changed lives. This is why I wrote "The Truth Out" and "

"Because I had to tell Maria, I ran back and forth from apartment to apartment. It was exciting, but I felt inside because Maria is my soul mate and she still is. So that's it.

Desmond: Before that, I wrote two similar songs. Later, I created a song with Paul Stanley and Holly Knight, called "Hide Your Heart". This song is a song between me and Bonnie Tyler ) Produced and made different creations with different people. That is one of my favorite songs, but "Rosa" is its predecessor. This is like a western story. In the end I sang the highest-pitched jazz ever. That is one of my things. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I think I never sang such a high song again. It is so tall and harsh. I think this song is a masterpiece in itself.

Desmond: Yes, well, they are not ready to go because we still have to mix them together. We started to make them, but we had a second idea about mixing, and now we remix them with another person. But we released two remastered albums, and I am glad to hear that they are not scratched. Then there is a remake of "Our Love Is Crazy XX".

Now, we have been creating new songs, and Maria is actually making them. Therefore, she is the one who coordinates all file sharing so that everyone can participate. Therefore, there is another song sung by Myriam. We are just waiting for the new year, and then we will move on. We are not on the record company's schedule. We don't care. We are with BMG. ...They are assigning us, we are just doing what we want to do, because we are doing it for us. For people who love our music.

Maria and my cousins ​​in Venezuela made an amazing website in Sicily. They are called Waterhouse Entertainment---my first cousin George and his wife. They did a great job. Maria made some movies on it. She has been socializing with them, and we have a treasure trove of all Ciro photos...such as our 2,000 photos. Candid content, photos and pictures that we reject for some reason. But now we are going, "Wow, we are beautiful. Why don't we save it?" (Laughs) So we keep posting those.

We have been talking. We are happy to make a coffee table book and accept interviews from all the different members. We tell the same story coldly in four different ways and only make a beautiful coffee table book. We have started to study self-publishing. I think we can make an art book on Amazon.

So with all these things, maybe one day, there will be musicals, movies or TV shows by Desmond Child and Rouge. Everything about our lives and landing in New York and everything that happened in the clubs around us when we started. Then, the shadow enveloped all our lives, namely AIDS. Many of our friends are dead. So I think this is a good story.

Desmond: (laughs) We will. Maria's one is really amazing. It is called "No one can hurt me, but you". One of the songs Myriam sang is "As beautiful as a storm": it's amazing. But the song Maria sang was like "Wow!!!" This is the work. Like her creative way, it is so cool and novel. She has her own studio and engineer, and it’s great for her to do these jobs. Now that we have our own original brand, we can continue to invest in products in this field. I don't think I will be happier.

Desmond: Well, do you know the "Diva"?

Desmond: Yes. I’m the executive producer of the TV show Transcon,

Desmond: Yes, this is called "Transcon", "The Making of Rue Perlman and the Revolution of Boy Bands." In cooperation with ABC, they have reached a deal with ShowRunner. I am trying to create a situation where I am a buyer rather than a seller. Therefore, with my partner Andreas Carlsson, we will select all the songs. Yes, there will be some authorized songs, but he co-written "Goodbye bye" and so on. But we are writing new music for this show.

We hope to make records with all the biggest stars and remake all the biggest songs.

I mean, in such a situation, many things may happen. Since Andreas and I met in 1998, we have been working hard. We started talking about movies. Because he works in Orlando, he told me the story of Lou Perlman. I was thinking: "This is the story of an idol maker. This is great! Let's write a story about it." Then the story got better and better. Then, we purchased the copyright to the story "The Hit Charade" about Tyler Gray (The Tyler Gray) and obtained the copyright to the vanity fare article called "Mad About the Boys". We have developed this project, and... many people have tried to implement this project, but we are all nailed, so we are really excited.

this is all. If I can step in the door like this, then I can do many things. We can like this "Desmond Child and Rouge" in the "Madame Maisel" series. There are many things I still have time to live and do great things. No moss gathered under my feet (laughs). I kept moving forward until they let me down. Until they close my show. (laugh)

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